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I see.
8:49 PM
I assumed this would not be personality based at all. This is very new and interesting to me.
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Neither of us was saved from the whole-body impact of such an event, we both had the same flashbacks and everything. However, the personality can determine if a reaction causes greater suffering due to added issue on top of the very basic trauma-response.
8:51 PM
I don't know if you were acquainted with me at the time but I ran away and refused contact with my host for fear of reliving the event. My responses were extreme in comparison to his, as I felt much worse when I had to experience any symptoms.
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I did not know you then, no.
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Ah. Well, perhaps that's for the best. My personal development moved in a radically different direction after that event, and proceeded to result in rapid change.
9:05 PM
I still do not believe that, for example, a legitimate psychological disorder can count as a component of a personality. However, vulnerability or resilience to certain problems can be a personality component and result in a disparity of severity between host and tulpa in certain situations.
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I see. Very interesting.
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There is some online community of individuals who are essentially people who consider themselves "multiples" who identify the foremost cause of the development of alternate personalities as a psychological response to trauma. In many of these cases, there is a personality to serve a sort of "protector/guardian" archetype that exists as the personality of greatest competence in handling or coping with the worst situations. I believe in their experience, those personalities are less impacted by bad things overall and have greater stability to "protect" the host personality from enduring those experiences.
9:14 PM
I am not certain of the "truth" of their claims, but it seems common enough to have a sense that personality can at least have some influence in how disorders are dealt with, instead of having a personality in which the disorder is exclusively manifesting.
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That is interesting.
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It is quite interesting, if a little strange to imagine.
9:25 PM
I have always had a desire to see how other communities differ from ours, especially with core beliefs as well as the idea of "switching" as in some groups it is almost universally identified as an unconscious process as well as complete memory separation even if there is an attempt. If anything, I think a collection of experiences is a good idea to have a single data source to observe all the ways by which people claim their body can be controlled by multiple identities.
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Syfar System 5/5/2018 9:39 PM
I'm a 'guardian'... just throwing that out there. -Wolf
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That's interesting, did you start off in this community or another?
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Syfar System 5/5/2018 9:40 PM
Well, this is the first and only community we found regarding tulpa
9:41 PM
but then again, i am less then a month old... as in being awake...
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That is very interesting indeed. Part of my curiosity is that I was made without regard or knowledge of other multiplicity communities, but after a few experiences I adapted myself to somewhat closer fit a "guardian" archetype much later in development. I don't know if this is a common development in non-traumagenic personalities or not.
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Syfar System 5/5/2018 9:44 PM
Syfar didn't need any protection from anything bad. Nor did he ask/make me like this. I just knew I really wanted to protect him, and thought myself a Guardian even before we knew that was a term. -w (edited)
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bduddy #Diana# 5/5/2018 10:14 PM
#I really want to protect my host too. But I'm sure he would protect me, also.#
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Guardian is a term that is specific to tulpa or multiples?
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not at all, I'd say. It's an archetype that's found pretty much anytime some interaction between multiple consciousness is described. From the guardian as someone who watches over a child, to the guardian figure in DID or tulpa systems, to guardian angels etc.
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Ah, I thought it was like a term that's been adopted in the same way switch has been used
10:24 PM
Or force or any of the tulpa vocabulary
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guardian goes way back, I'd say
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It's not a term that I have seen used in the tulpa community particularly, it seems to have more meaning in other communities where there are alternate personalities generated by some more spontaneous process, normally as a result of trauma. (edited)
10:35 PM
I just wanted to be competent in emergency situations after feeling quite foolish for my response to my first near-death experience. That way, it wouldn't be my host's job to bail me out if I get into a bad spot, and I could even do something extra to help him out of bad spots too. I don't know if that's a normal response or not, though, even though it seems normal enough for other communities to have its own designated archetypal role
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Deleted User 5/6/2018 5:21 AM
i tried all day to piss my tulpa off and he's too selfless and pure to get angry with me and i just made him sad instead and now i feel bad
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That is rather rude.
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bduddy #Diana# 5/6/2018 5:29 AM
...why would you do that?
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Deleted User 5/6/2018 5:34 AM
"Best way to tell if someone cares about you is how annoyed they can get with you. So in Tulpa terms, I guess finding a way to irritate them is a fantastic way to check for sentience."
5:34 AM
cause of this advice earlier.
5:34 AM
sounded good to me but im retarded and forgot my tulpa cant get irritated by me in the first palce
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Deleted User 5/6/2018 5:48 AM
I see people that get annoyed, but they pretty much only do useless things, and no they don't care for themself allot of the time, or anyone.
5:49 AM
They will get annoyed, attack you, not let you go to the bathroom even, lots of stupid things.
5:52 AM
I don't know what being annoyed would show.
5:52 AM
But people that are very stupid, will get annoyed over and over,and attack you for no reason.
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@Deleted User You know what this calls for, an aggressivly loving makeup cuddle session
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...what did I miss here? In any case, I do not advocate intentionally pissing your tulpa (or anyone else for that matter) off.
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Deleted User 5/6/2018 6:55 AM
🤷 K.
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Deleted User 5/6/2018 7:23 AM
Earlier I encountered the tests "ask your tulpa for something random" and "ask your tulpa to surprise you" and when I wondered if I was just parrotting, I was told to open text editor and have a chat there and see if it makes sense and it did and sentience was confirmed.
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Deleted User 5/6/2018 8:38 AM
Can tulpas type?
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yes, tulpas are able to control the host's body by possession or switching and type
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Deleted User 5/6/2018 8:45 AM
Can't they get their own body?
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they can have their own form in the wonderland, but that's basically imagination
8:46 AM
so no, they can't physically generate an actual body
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Deleted User 5/6/2018 8:48 AM
It costed over $11 to get into the newer wonderland at theater.
8:53 AM
@Deleted User Can you ask tulpa my kin type?
huh 4
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Are you talking about a stage production of Peter Pan?
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Deleted User 5/6/2018 8:54 AM
doesn't understand
8:57 AM
That's Neverland.
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My 'kin' type is "other" :p
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Kronkle[Alyson] 5/6/2018 9:00 AM
I'm 78% certain mine is berry
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what is a kin type, and how do I find what mine is?
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The closest match I can find is the species you identify with. Which is probably human.
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@Deleted User Your self-identification is your own, and nobody separate will know it as well or as specifically as you.
9:05 AM
Also, no. Tulpas do not have their own physical bodies separate from the host's. That is literally part of the point - they are partners/companions that exist in the same brain as the host.
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Deleted User 5/6/2018 9:06 AM
@SkyeNet 😣
9:07 AM
I think we may have read similar creepypasta that I am not going to name, but you probably have read of that person who "brought" the word?
9:08 AM
Oh fun?
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...what?
9:09 AM
For the record, creepypastas are not actually real.
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nor do they accurately depict tulpas
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Deleted User 5/6/2018 9:09 AM
-sigh-
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Some people have found my story a little creepy.
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Indeed, they do not.
9:11 AM
Also, lungs - out of curiosity, what are you asking me to watch my mouth for? Stating that creepypasta isn't real?
9:11 AM
Pointing out that tulpas are not physically separate for the host?
9:11 AM
Do tell.
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@Tulpabug Sooooooo, what's your story?
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Deleted User 5/6/2018 9:12 AM
I'm new. You can't expect me to know.
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Well, the creepiest part, is how I wrestle with my host for control of the body. And I can win every time.
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I didn't. That's why I told you.
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you're able to take control against your host's will?
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Yes.
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Deleted User 5/6/2018 9:13 AM
Sounds fun. Can I try?
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facehoof
9:14 AM
You can certainly learn to wrestle. It's a lot of fun.
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@Tulpabug [I got consistent vocality by learning to shut off my host's ability to think in words~]
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Wow
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I can take control forcefully if I need to, just as Skye can take control forcefully. However, we have quite literally no need to do so unless there is some trouble the other is experiencing.
9:14 AM
...in any case, I must sleep. Good night. Be good.
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good night
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Don't make me need to wake up to stop trouble. Thank you.
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Night.
9:15 AM
:)
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Deleted User 5/6/2018 9:15 AM
Sleep well
9:15 AM
Lets wait till they are asleep to cause trouble.
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contrary to popular belief, causing trouble causes trouble
9:16 AM
so let's not
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Causing trouble ends with you in trouble.
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Deleted User 5/6/2018 9:18 AM
Eye eye.
9:19 AM
I still think you have it backwards kind of.
9:19 AM
But we'll let you sleep.
9:20 AM
Brb. I need some juice. It's been a long decade of not finding anything to do.
orangejuice 4
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Deleted User 5/6/2018 9:59 AM
-chews my juice down-
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this is a bit off topic, but I bought some orange juice and it's now fizzy, I need to throw it out
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to the lounge
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Byers.-- 📸 5/6/2018 9:58 PM
My tulpa just kinda effs off and does what he wants, he's been dormant as of late, though.
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Radium Alarie 5/6/2018 9:58 PM
You know I think I know what happened with Radon's creation
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